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 Jam?son Families of the Isle of Bute, Scotland - group details

Y-DNA test results, detailed and analyzed, for one of the Jam?son families and their descendants, originally from the Isle of Bute in Scotland.

Oldest Presumed Ancestor: It is often thought that there was a single "original" Jam?son ancestor (probably named McKinney) on the Isle of Bute responsible for all the Jam?sons that can eventually be found with their roots there. This is highly unlikely, give that Bute was occupied way before surnames (including those derived as "son of James") were used. That and of course, natural immigration of other families from the surrounding areas.

More Recent, "Common" Y-DNA Proven Family Group Ancestors :  William Jameson (1730-1885), Robert Jamieson (c.1705-bef.1767)

Other Implied Y-DNA Tests or Ancestors : Not yet known


General Comments:

So far, the Y-DNA tests (2) regarding Jam?sons on the Isle of Bute, indicate they are both from the same family, at least with regards to a family with as yet unknown common ancestor. As such they are combined here as one family (common ancestor unknown) representing all we know, so far, about the Y-DNA of Jam?sons on Bute.


Notes about test data below:

Details listed below are those test results pertaining to the areas relevant to the primary lineage of just the Y-Chromosome of each person tested and does not otherwise represent that person genetically beyond this narrow pedigree only study.


Haplo Group/Tree - Haplogroups are the categories (groups) each persons belongs with. These haplogroups (A-Z) are determined by a person's DNA, specifically the existence of certain SNPs within each persons DNA. These SNPs are known to mutate slightly and infrequently every few hundred years forming new inheritable SNPs, indicating new subclades (subgroups). The numbers in the chart below are the unique SNP markers revealed in each test result. They represent the DNA location where a specific mutation occurred, creating what can be considered new "branch" of the Haplo tree.

  Notes about this chart: SNP test results shown below, are from different individuals of just this Jameson family group.
Note on the color coding : Green = tested and confirmed, Orange = predicted.
Test ID Pedigree to Common Ancestor H
a
p
l
o
Significant SNPs - oldest to newest (Terminal SNP)
William Jameson (c.1730-1885) - Bute, Scotland DNA Family Group = bute-wm-1730
IN91878 - William\Neil\Christopher R M207 M173 M343 L754 L389 P297 M269 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
IN95630 - Hugh\Alan\Alan R M207 M173 M343 L754 L389 P297 M269 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
 

SNP Comments and Analysis:

In general, the "R" haplogroup, with all of it's subgroups, is widespread and the largest haplogroup now found in Europe. It is thought to have developed in prehistory Europe, Central Asia and South Asia, some 27,000 years ago or older. This particular family's "R" Haplogroup is defined as with the existence of the SNP M207 and then numerous subclades, especially M343. The M269 subclade group (R-M269) is thought to have been created about 13,000 years ago and is also said to be the most common of European Subgroups. It's numerous subgroups comprises most Western European Y chromosomes and can be used to trace the Neolithic expansion into Europe as well founder-effects within European populations due to later (Bronze Age and Iron Age) migrations.

Both tests (so far) within this group predict they belong to the M269 subgroup, but does not go any further. Deeper SNP testing, of the many more known mutations (subgroups), will be needed to better understand the anthropological profile of this family.



Y-DNA DYS Profile - As determined by the STR numbers in the DYS chart below. These DYS numbers in the heading are the DNA location of specific genetic information shown in the test results below. The actual results are expressed with extraneous numbers, which only become useful when collectively considered an individual's overall profile and used to compare to someone else's test. Each 'Profile' should be looked at as a whole, like you would a finger print.

Notes about this chart: STR test results shown below, are from different individuals of just this Jameson family group.
Test ID Pedigree to Common Ancestor DYS#
3
9
3
3
9
0
1
9
3
9
1
3
8
5
a
3
8
5
b
4
2
6
3
8
8
4
3
9
3
8
9
i
3
9
2
3
8
9
i
i
4
5
8
4
5
9
a
4
5
9
b
4
5
5
4
5
4
4
4
7
4
3
7
4
4
8
4
4
9
4
6
4
a
4
6
4
b
4
6
4
c
4
6
4
d
4
6
0
G
A
T
A

H
4
Y
C
A

I
I

a
Y
C
A

I
I

b
4
5
6
6
0
7
5
7
6
5
7
0
C
D
Y

a
C
D
Y

b
4
4
2
4
3
8
William Jameson (c.1730-1885) - Bute, Scotland DNA Family Group = bute-wm-1730
IN91878 - William\Neil\Christopher 13 25 14 10 11 13 12 12 13 13 14 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 18 30 16 16 17 18 11 11 19 22 16 16 18 16 38 39 12 12
IN95630 - Hugh\Alan\Alan 13 25 14 10 11 13 12 12 13 13 14 29 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 18 30 14 16 17 18 11 11 19 23 17 16 17 16 37 39 18 12
 

STR Comments and Analysis:

These two tests are a match with each other, withing the first 25 markers, making a strong case that the share a common ancestor in earlier times, probably before records were commonly kept. After that, the next 12 markers vary somewhat, suggesting the families separated somewhat. Further STR testing (to 67 or 111 markers) would probably increase that distancing of these two branches of what is undoubtedly the same family.



Other Tests (elsewhere) of Importance, Not Included in this Group:

Test # 428618 seems like it might have some relationship to test # IN91878, whose ancestry is thought to be from Manor Hamilton, County Leitrim, Ireland. Earlier connections beyond that are unknown.

There are several (about 10) connections with McKeimy possibilities, although these too are not direct matches, nor particularly close.

Possibles amongst the Stuart, Stewart, Fullerton families most likely exist and will need to be identified and analyzed.


Notes & Analysis:

The Jam?sons of the Isle of Bute are one of the earliest know Jam?son families in Scotland. Actual records of their existence on Bute go back at least until the 1400's, maybe earlier. They have long been thought to have somehow connected with those ruling early Bute, perhaps even connected with the Stuart's of Bute, maybe even direct descendants with some of these early Stewards. There is even a castle, now in ruins, on Bute known as the "Jameson Castle." It is long thought that the Jam?sons on Bute may have all been related to each other. This small sampling (two so far), would begin to prove just that, or at least to some degree

Jam?son were a prolific family on Bute and could be found there in all locations, mostly farming. That is until the late nineteenth century, after which they mostly disappeared, for any number of reasons. Nowadays, there are no known Jam?sons at all, living on Bute. There are however, any number of descendants of the Jam?sons from Bute living is several different places around the world, notably in Australia and New Zealand. Further DNA testing may reveal others, elsewhere.


Data Sources include: FTDNA's Jamieson Project, ISOGG, National Geographic's Genographic Project, Ancestry's DNA Program and other users sources.
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